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  • Re: nl problem

    From acn@WEEDNET/IMZADI to Ogg on Fri Apr 7 11:34:00 2023
    Am 06.04.23 schrieb Ogg@420:2/1.10 in WEED_GENERAL:

    Hallo Ogg,

    My debuglog.txt only tracks data per session. That means, the
    next time I launch OpenXP (which I've done since then) there is
    a fresh new debuglox.txt file. So, there is no record of the
    problem. When I've encountered a "problem with nodelist" error
    in the past in othernets, I've just learned to delete the
    nodelist and install the next one manually.

    Since today the 097 nodelist was sent out - did it work this time?
    Although I have to admit that the file should not have changed
    (besides the serial changing from 090 to 097).

    Regards,
    Anna

    --- OpenXP 5.0.57
    * Origin: Imzadi Box -*- WeedNet FTN hub (420:2/1.1)
    þ Synchronet þ Imzadi Box -*- box.imzadi.de
  • From Ogg@WEEDNET/IMZADI to acn on Fri Apr 7 10:03:00 2023
    Hello acn!

    Since today the 097 nodelist was sent out - did it work this time?
    Although I have to admit that the file should not have changed
    (besides the serial changing from 090 to 097).

    When I deleted 090, I didn't reactivate the auto nodelist
    update part. I'll activate 097 and see what happens next time.
    Will there be another nodelist delivery next week?

    --
    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.57
    * Origin: Watch WEEDnet grow, http://kolico.ca/ftn/weednet (420:2/1.10)
    þ Synchronet þ Imzadi Box -*- box.imzadi.de
  • From acn@WEEDNET/IMZADI to Ogg on Sat Apr 8 13:15:00 2023
    Am 07.04.23 schrieb Ogg@420:2/1.10 in WEED_GENERAL:

    Hallo Ogg,

    When I deleted 090, I didn't reactivate the auto nodelist
    update part. I'll activate 097 and see what happens next time.

    I hope that it'll work!

    Will there be another nodelist delivery next week?

    Yes, nodelists will be sent out every friday at 7am CET (via a cronjob
    *g*), even if there are no changes.

    Regards,
    Anna

    --- OpenXP 5.0.57
    * Origin: Imzadi Box -*- WeedNet FTN hub (420:2/1.1)
    þ Synchronet þ Imzadi Box -*- box.imzadi.de
  • From Roon@WEEDNET/IMZADI to acn on Thu Apr 13 17:02:42 2023
    Hello acn,

    07 Apr 23 11:34, you wrote to Ogg:

    Am 06.04.23 schrieb Ogg@420:2/1.10 in WEED_GENERAL:

    Hallo Ogg,

    My debuglog.txt only tracks data per session. That means, the
    next time I launch OpenXP (which I've done since then) there is
    a fresh new debuglox.txt file. So, there is no record of the
    problem. When I've encountered a "problem with nodelist" error
    in the past in othernets, I've just learned to delete the
    nodelist and install the next one manually.

    Since today the 097 nodelist was sent out - did it work this time?
    Although I have to admit that the file should not have changed
    (besides the serial changing from 090 to 097).

    the problem is that the header is not updated:

    097 contains:
    ;A WeedNet Nodelist for Friday, January 6, 2023 -- Day number 006 : 20189


    Regards,
    --
    dp

    telnet://bbs.roonsbbs.hu:1212 <<=-

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  • From acn@WEEDNET/IMZADI to Roon on Fri Apr 14 14:42:00 2023
    Am 13.04.23 schrieb Roon@420:2/3 in WEED_GENERAL:

    Hallo Roon,

    Since today the 097 nodelist was sent out - did it work this time?
    Although I have to admit that the file should not have changed
    (besides the serial changing from 090 to 097).

    the problem is that the header is not updated:

    097 contains:
    ;A WeedNet Nodelist for Friday, January 6, 2023 -- Day number 006 : 20189

    I've looked at the makenl documentation and found the setting
    "forcesubmit 1".
    I've changed the configuration and so next week the file should
    contain also the right day number.

    But nevertheless, I'm using the same nodelist in the same software and
    I didn't get any errors over all the time...

    Regards,
    Anna

    --- OpenXP 5.0.57
    * Origin: Imzadi Box -*- WeedNet FTN hub (420:2/1.1)
    þ Synchronet þ Imzadi Box -*- box.imzadi.de
  • From Ogg@WEEDNET/IMZADI to Roon on Fri Apr 14 21:26:00 2023
    Hello Roon!

    ** On Thursday 13.04.23 - 17:02, Roon wrote to acn:

    the problem is that the header is not updated:

    097 contains:
    ;A WeedNet Nodelist for Friday, January 6, 2023 -- Day number 006 : 20189

    Anything after a ; is a comment, no? so, anything on that line
    wouldn't matter, no?
    --
    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.57
    * Origin: Watch WEEDnet grow, http://kolico.ca/ftn/weednet (420:2/1.10)
    þ Synchronet þ Imzadi Box -*- box.imzadi.de
  • From Roon@WEEDNET/IMZADI to Ogg on Sat Apr 15 15:53:12 2023
    Hello Ogg,

    14 Apr 23 21:26, you wrote to me:

    Hello Roon!

    ** On Thursday 13.04.23 - 17:02, Roon wrote to acn:

    the problem is that the header is not updated:

    097 contains:
    ;A WeedNet Nodelist for Friday, January 6, 2023 -- Day number 006
    : 20189

    Anything after a ; is a comment, no? so, anything on that line
    wouldn't matter, no?

    it seems that nodelist compilers are using that line.
    i realized that because my Qnode/2 were not using nodelists higher than 006 and tryed to figure out why. and this was the only thing i've found.

    Regards,
    --
    dp

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  • From Ogg@WEEDNET/IMZADI to Roon on Sun Apr 16 11:03:00 2023
    Hello Roon!

    ** On Saturday 15.04.23 - 15:53, Roon wrote to Ogg:

    Anything after a ; is a comment, no? so, anything on that line
    wouldn't matter, no?

    it seems that nodelist compilers are using that line.
    i realized that because my Qnode/2 were not using nodelists higher than
    006 and tryed to figure out why. and this was the only thing i've found.

    I could try to replace the number in that line manually. What
    should it be?

    Meanwhile the recent .104 nodelist causes the same error.

    Both .097 and .104 have the first line the same:

    ;A WeedNet Nodelist for Friday, January 6, 2023 -- Day number
    006 : 20189

    Instead of 20189, what should that be as well?

    --
    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.57
    * Origin: Watch WEEDnet grow, http://kolico.ca/ftn/weednet (420:2/1.10)
    þ Synchronet þ Imzadi Box -*- box.imzadi.de
  • From acn@WEEDNET/IMZADI to Ogg on Mon Apr 17 13:03:00 2023
    Am 16.04.23 schrieb Ogg@420:2/1.10 in WEED_GENERAL:

    Hallo Ogg,

    it seems that nodelist compilers are using that line.
    i realized that because my Qnode/2 were not using nodelists higher than
    006 and tryed to figure out why. and this was the only thing i've found.

    I could try to replace the number in that line manually. What
    should it be?

    Meanwhile the recent .104 nodelist causes the same error.

    Both .097 and .104 have the first line the same:

    ;A WeedNet Nodelist for Friday, January 6, 2023 -- Day number
    006 : 20189

    Instead of 20189, what should that be as well?

    I recompiled the nodelist from last friday with a new option in
    makenl's configuration, so that this line also gets recreated every
    time.

    The line for .104 would be now:

    ;A WeedNet Nodelist for Friday, April 14, 2023 -- Day number 104 :
    20189

    So the checksum (20189) stays the same :)

    The next file, .Z11 with .111, will be sent out on friday.

    Regards,
    Anna

    --- OpenXP 5.0.57
    * Origin: Imzadi Box -*- WeedNet FTN hub (420:2/1.1)
    þ Synchronet þ Imzadi Box -*- box.imzadi.de
  • From Ogg@WEEDNET/IMZADI to acn on Mon Apr 17 18:49:00 2023
    Hello acn!

    ** On Monday 17.04.23 - 13:03, acn wrote to Ogg:

    The line for .104 would be now:

    ;A WeedNet Nodelist for Friday, April 14, 2023 -- Day number 104 :
    20189

    So the checksum (20189) stays the same :)

    The next file, .Z11 with .111, will be sent out on friday.

    All set and ready for the next one. A few mysteries of
    behaviour were uncovered in how OPX operates wrt previous
    nodelist files found in /FILES. Now, the processing is set to
    delete the .Z## file once it has been processed.

    --
    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.57
    * Origin: Watch WEEDnet grow, http://kolico.ca/ftn/weednet (420:2/1.10)
    þ Synchronet þ Imzadi Box -*- box.imzadi.de
  • From Ogg@WEEDNET/IMZADI to acn on Mon Apr 17 19:53:00 2023
    Hello acn!

    ** On Monday 17.04.23 - 13:03, acn wrote to Ogg:

    The line for .104 would be now:

    ;A WeedNet Nodelist for Friday, April 14, 2023 -- Day number 104 :
    20189

    The correct text would be good!

    ..then the header for http://kolico.ca/ftn/weednet/ would
    look right! :D

    --
    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.57
    * Origin: Watch WEEDnet grow, http://kolico.ca/ftn/weednet (420:2/1.10)
    þ Synchronet þ Imzadi Box -*- box.imzadi.de
  • From Ogg@WEEDNET/IMZADI to acn on Sat Apr 22 20:04:00 2023
    Hello acn!

    ** On Monday 17.04.23 - 13:03, acn wrote to Ogg:

    The line for .104 would be now:

    ;A WeedNet Nodelist for Friday, April 14, 2023 -- Day number 104 :
    20189

    So the checksum (20189) stays the same :)

    The next file, .Z11 with .111, will be sent out on friday.


    It all worked this time. But I see that you are not interested
    in updating the first line. :(

    I suppose it's simpler that way if there are absolutely no
    changes.

    --
    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.57
    * Origin: Watch WEEDnet grow, http://kolico.ca/ftn/weednet (420:2/1.10)
    þ Synchronet þ Imzadi Box -*- box.imzadi.de
  • From acn@WEEDNET/IMZADI to Ogg on Tue Apr 25 13:52:00 2023
    Am 22.04.23 schrieb Ogg@420:2/1.10 in WEED_GENERAL:

    Hallo Ogg,

    The line for .104 would be now:
    ;A WeedNet Nodelist for Friday, April 14, 2023 -- Day number 104 :
    20189
    So the checksum (20189) stays the same :)
    The next file, .Z11 with .111, will be sent out on friday.

    It all worked this time. But I see that you are not interested
    in updating the first line. :(

    That's a lie! Sorry, but that's absolutely not true.

    I tried changing a setting in makenl (I've set 'forcesubmit' to 1),
    but I have to admit that I'm absolutely no expert in this things.

    So, if you know how to setup makenl to achieve this, just tell me how
    to do it.

    I thought that setting 'forcenl 1' would solve the problem, but it
    didn't.

    Maybe I have to change my script for checking, compiling, adding to
    the filebase and hatching the nodelist further.

    I suppose it's simpler that way if there are absolutely no
    changes.

    As I wouldn't have to change my setup, it would be :)
    (and I have not heard from anyone that the 'problem' caused any
    problems)

    But I'm open for ideas.

    Regards,
    Anna

    --- OpenXP 5.0.57
    * Origin: Imzadi Box -*- WeedNet FTN hub (420:2/1.1)
    þ Synchronet þ Imzadi Box -*- box.imzadi.de
  • From Ogg@WEEDNET/IMZADI to acn on Tue Apr 25 22:37:00 2023
    Hello acn!

    It all worked this time. But I see that you are not
    interested in updating the first line. :(

    That's a lie! Sorry, but that's absolutely not true.

    I tried changing a setting in makenl (I've set
    'forcesubmit' to 1), but I have to admit that I'm
    absolutely no expert in this things.

    So, if you know how to setup makenl to achieve this, just
    tell me how to do it.

    The last time I managed a net segment of my own and makenl was
    back in the mid 90's. I don't remember its features or
    capabilities or if it can manage the first comment line.

    But I am sure some sysops here could illuminate.


    I suppose it's simpler that way if there are absolutely no
    changes.

    As I wouldn't have to change my setup, it would be :) (and
    I have not heard from anyone that the 'problem' caused any
    problems)

    No worries. It's just a comment line, and wouldn't affect
    operations. The "problem", as we have learned, was how I had
    OpenXP setup here to handle new incoming nodelist deliveries.


    But I'm open for ideas.

    I can ask at least one sysop who manages a segment on another
    net how he does it.


    --- OpenXP 5.0.57
    * Origin: Watch WEEDnet grow, http://kolico.ca/ftn/weednet (420:2/1.10)
    þ Synchronet þ Imzadi Box -*- box.imzadi.de